The Request of James and John

James and John want to sit on Jesus’ right and left in his kingdom. They will be part of that, they are disciples who match one-on-one to the tribes. The problem is these two are a team by themselves, and do not sit on either side. The other disciples get indignant and the entire episode erupts into an argument.

This is prophetic for the split in the Roman world in the early 300s AD, or the 11,300 AA era.

This is foretold in other parables, for example, those dealing with the split in the Mount of Olives, or Mount of Peace. Their request marks the end of peace between the Russian/Eastern peoples and the English/European/Western peoples.

Luke (P)

24Also a dispute arose among them as to which of them was considered to be greatest. 25Jesus said to them, "The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. 26But you are not to be like that. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who rules like the one who serves. 27For who is greater, the one who is at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who is at the table? But I am among you as one who serves. 28You are those who have stood by me in my trials. 29And I confer on you a kingdom, just as my Father conferred one on me, 30so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Luke 22:24-30 NIV

24And there was also a strife among them, which of them should be accounted the greatest. 25And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. 26But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve. 27For whether is greater, he that sitteth at meat, or he that serveth? is not he that sitteth at meat? but I am among you as he that serveth. 28Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations. 29And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me; 30That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Luke 22:24-30 KJV

Mount Of Olives

This place is a match to the OT Splitting of the Mount of Olives, with 1/2 going east and 1/2 going west. It fulfilled in history with the division of Rome. (In roughly 11371-11400 AA.)

In Matthew’s account the exact timing just established is 11531 AA, or 541 AD, which is when the Caesar at Rome abandoned the city for Constantinople. This is another candidate, but later, for this.

Luke’s account is quite different, but it points at the same period with the point being made that Christians will judge the tribes, ie: rule over them. This process begins with the Christianization of Rome at about the same era.

John’s account also points at this era. Christianization of Europe matches the disciples believing. "Now we know you know all things." "We believe you came forth from God." "You will be scattered." These are all references to this era.

John (P) Matthew (P) Mark (P)

29His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no proverb. 30Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God. 31Jesus answered them, Do ye now believe? 32Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me. 33These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. John 16:29-33 KJV

29Then Jesus' disciples said, "Now you are speaking clearly and without figures of speech. 30Now we can see that you know all things and that you do not even need to have anyone ask you questions. This makes us believe that you came from God."

31"You believe at last!" Jesus answered. 32"But a time is coming, and has come, when you will be scattered, each to his own home. You will leave me all alone. Yet I am not alone, for my Father is with me.

33"I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world." John 16:29-33 NIV

30When they had sung a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives.

31Then Jesus told them, "This very night you will all fall away on account of me, for it is written: "`I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.' 32But after I have risen, I will go ahead of you into Galilee." Matthew 26:30-32 NIV

30And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives. 31Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad. 32But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee. Matthew 26:30-32 KJV

26When they had sung a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives.

27"You will all fall away," Jesus told them, "for it is written: "`I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered.' 28But after I have risen, I will go ahead of you into Galilee." Mark 14:26-28 NIV

26And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives. 27And Jesus saith unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered. 28But after that I am risen, I will go before you into Galilee. Mark 14:26-28 KJV

Jesus Predicts Peter’s Denial

Peter will deny Jesus 3 times. Each denial represents an hour and the prediction folds to the hour ahead of the first denial.

Matthew (P) Mark (P) Luke (P)

33Peter replied, "Even if all fall away on account of you, I never will."

34"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "this very night, before the rooster crows, you will disown me three times."

35But Peter declared, "Even if I have to die with you, I will never disown you." And all the other disciples said the same. Matthew 26:33-35 NIV

33Peter answered and said unto him, Though all men shall be offended because of thee, yet will I never be offended. 34Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. 35Peter said unto him, Though I should die with thee, yet will I not deny thee. Likewise also said all the disciples. Matthew 26:33-35 KJV

29Peter declared, "Even if all fall away, I will not."

30"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "today -- yes, tonight -- before the rooster crows twice you yourself will disown me three times."

31But Peter insisted emphatically, "Even if I have to die with you, I will never disown you." And all the others said the same. Mark 14:29-31 NIV

29But Peter said unto him, Although all shall be offended, yet will not I. 30And Jesus saith unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this day, even in this night, before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice.UNSURE: Tagging of particle "ie". 31But he spake the more vehemently, If I should die with thee, I will not deny thee in any wise. Likewise also said they all. Mark 14:29-31 KJV

31"Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift you as wheat. 32But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers."

33But he replied, "Lord, I am ready to go with you to prison and to death."

34Jesus answered, "I tell you, Peter, before the rooster crows today, you will deny three times that you know me." Luke 22:31-34 NIV

31And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: 32But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren. 33And he said unto him, Lord, I am ready to go with thee, both into prison, and to death. 34And he said, I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me. Luke 22:31-34 KJV

Told to Prepare

This is an out-take prediction, not particularly linked to historical time. Note: Being "numbered" with transgressors is something that comes up in Mark’s account at Jesus’ death on the cross. This passage reinforces that this event is the end of matters concerning salvation. Jesus is editorializing on the end 19000 years.

Luke (P)

35Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?"

"Nothing," they answered.

36He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37It is written: `And he was numbered with the transgressors'; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment."

38The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords."

"That is enough," he replied.

39Jesus went out as usual to the Mount of Olives, and his disciples followed him. Luke 22:35-39 NIV

35And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. 36Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. 37For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.UNSURE: About tagging of "kai" with "logidzomai" it could go with "gar" as well. 38And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

39And he came out, and went, as he was wont, to the mount of Olives; and his disciples also followed him. Luke 22:35-39 KJV

To Gethsemane

To the garden.

John (P) Matthew (P) Mark (P)

1When he had finished praying, Jesus left with his disciples and crossed the Kidron Valley. On the other side there was an olive grove, and he and his disciples went into it. John 18:1 NIV

1When Jesus had spoken these words, he went forth with his disciples over the brook Cedron, where was a garden, into the which he entered, and his disciples. John 18:1 KJV

36Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder. Matthew 26:36 KJV

36Then Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to them, "Sit here while I go over there and pray." Matthew 26:36 NIV

32They went to a place called Gethsemane, and Jesus said to his disciples, "Sit here while I pray." 33He took Peter, James and John along with him, and he began to be deeply distressed and troubled. Mark 14:32-33 NIV

32And they came to a place which was named Gethsemane: and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall pray. 33And he taketh with him Peter and James and John, and began to be sore amazed, and to be very heavy; Mark 14:32-33 KJV

Day/Year Passion Replay

On Tuesday, November 3, 2009, United States President Obama hosted a US-EU Summit at the white house. Visitors included German and Swedish presidents, and other leaders from around Europe.

The passage for this hour includes Jesus discussing how the disciples stayed with Jesus. This is an interesting historical reference to the way the lost tribes settled in Europe and generally remained Christian through the centuries. Jesus promises the disciples a kingdom, and it will include the 12 tribes, which is what become the European Union of today, the group which assembled for this summit at this point.

The Mount of Olives discussion deals with the disbursal of the disciples, each to his own country, something that happened at the end of the summit, which more precisely measures this hour. It is also interesting that this reinforces the idea that each would map to individual countries, which whey do through the various apostle-to-tribe maps that generally fall across Europe.

The text for this hour also includes discussion of Peter's denial. Fulfillment of this aspect of the hour includes a visit with the İstanbul-based Greek Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomew and Obama at the White House. The subject of the visit was the reopening of an Eastern Orthodox Halki Seminary in Turkey, a topic that Obama has brought up in April, 2009, when visiting that country.

This Patriarch is the leader of the 300,000,000 member eastern Orthodox church. The eastern equivalent of the Pope at Rome. He is the other claimant to the seat of Peter, another direct match to this passage. Because Peter is the disciple to the Russian peoples, this Patriarch has a stronger claim to being the descendant of Peter, and thus a stronger claim for fulfillment.

The problem for Peter, and the eastern peoples generally, is they tend at times to deny Jesus. The orthodox church was never intellectually strong enough to defend Jesus in the onslaught brought on by Islam. In this specific case Peter's problem was the closing, instead of moving, of a seminary. This has been an issue for Turkey generally who has wanted EU membership, but persecution of Christian minorities has been an ongoing problem. This seminary has been closed since 1971 by government decree.

The passage also deals with advice to prepare. In this case money in purses and sword in hand. The price of gold had broken through the $1000 level a few weeks before and continued its climb.

Obama eventually departed Washington DC for a speech at a middle school in Madison, Wisconsin. Wisconsin governor Jim Davis introduced Obama at the James C. Wright Middle School. Note the name of the governor and the name of the school match the name of the disciple, Jacob or James, that Jesus took to the garden.